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Mmmm...venison.
I've grown up eating venison, and I love it. My dad, brothers, and family friends are all hunters. I view it as the ultimate in free range organic red meat. It's lean, nutritious, and all-around good fuel for my body.
My only ethical reservation is that the harvest of these animals is dictated by regional wildlife management agencies, which may or may not manage populations in the right way. Are the local sixty-year-old men just telling tales when they compare the Oregon of their youth to the Alaska of today, with it's abundant game? My hunch is that they aren't, and it nags at me sometimes when I'm chewing a tendy and juicy elk steak.
Does anyone else in the tribe eat venison, or abstain for ethical reasons? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the subject.
Willie Love
PS - I just found this tribe, and I've yet to read all the old posts, so forgive me if this thread is redundant. I've adopted this tribe's title to describe what kind of 'vore I am...thanks for being here.
I've grown up eating venison, and I love it. My dad, brothers, and family friends are all hunters. I view it as the ultimate in free range organic red meat. It's lean, nutritious, and all-around good fuel for my body.
My only ethical reservation is that the harvest of these animals is dictated by regional wildlife management agencies, which may or may not manage populations in the right way. Are the local sixty-year-old men just telling tales when they compare the Oregon of their youth to the Alaska of today, with it's abundant game? My hunch is that they aren't, and it nags at me sometimes when I'm chewing a tendy and juicy elk steak.
Does anyone else in the tribe eat venison, or abstain for ethical reasons? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the subject.
Willie Love
PS - I just found this tribe, and I've yet to read all the old posts, so forgive me if this thread is redundant. I've adopted this tribe's title to describe what kind of 'vore I am...thanks for being here.
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Re: Game meat - ruminants of the forest taste great and are good for you
Fri, March 11, 2005 - 4:44 PMI think you make some good points about the deer's being organic and all. Also, deer are one of the very few types of game that regularly do need a culling - they will eat themselves out of an existence if left alone in what pitiful amounts of land we've left for them. Personally the only thing I've ever hunted was quail, and that was for immediate consumption.
I think there is a wide gap (some would say a fine line) between what you're talking about and these yahoos in Texas that have set up a gun-equipped webcam where you can shoot any animal that ventures across the screen. That's just gratuitous. Me, I'm an animal lover. However, one of the things I love about animals is that they taste GREAT!! -
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Re: Game meat - ruminants of the forest taste great and are good for you
Mon, March 14, 2005 - 10:22 AM
My dad was a hunter, I was raised on wild game (moose & deer, mostly.) Even after I stopped eating farmed meats, I'd go home and dine on roast moose with my family with a clear conscience.
Now, after years of veganism, I'm back to meat, and the only thing I really feel comfortable with at present is wild game. Unfortunately, my dad lives in Canada and I never learned to hunt. I'm still seeking a hunter in the area from whom I can gain some cuts of venison & other wild meats, and maybe learn the skill.
I recently bought some farmed elk, something I don't plan to do again until I learn more about deer/elk farms. I actually know very little about farming game. I know there's some domestication involved, definitely penning, but that's about it. Does anyone else?
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Re: Game meat - ruminants of the forest taste great and are good for you
Sat, March 19, 2005 - 10:34 AMI enjoy eating meat that I've taken myself. Have done so only in CA and AK.
Roy
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Re: Game meat - ruminants of the forest taste great and are good for you
Sun, March 20, 2005 - 10:47 AMif you go to www.carc-crac.ca/english/c.../dere.htm,
there are some guide lines for canada.
i will try to find some for american standards.
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Re: Game meat - ruminants of the forest taste great and are good for you
Sun, March 20, 2005 - 10:39 AMoh i love vension.i think tho, all the vension sold is farmed not from the forests or woods. sold is the only way i get vension, fore i know not a hunter.
i also think elk is yummy.
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Re: Game meat - ruminants of the forest taste great and are good for you
Sun, April 24, 2005 - 8:25 PM
I've been way too wrapped up in work the last few seasons to hunt much. I really like wild hog, but then again venison backstrap medalions hammered paper thin and grilled or lighly breaded in to a cutlet rivals any thing I ever had in a gourmet restuarant.
I read somewhere that there are more whitetail deer now than ever, they are even crowding out mule & elk in areas where they were previously scarce.
As fars as ethics goes the cattle that graize the land I hunt on have a 97% chance they will end up in a slaughter house, the deer have pretty good odds of dying of natural causes.
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Re: Game meat - ruminants of the forest taste great and are good for you
Tue, May 10, 2005 - 3:21 PM
Actually, one of the reasons deer populations are increasing is, ironically, because of ranch animals. Deer predators like wolves and the big cats have been eliminated nearly to extinction. Plus deer can (and do) are safe in suburban residential areas whereas the predators aren't. Thus I don't think eating venison meat is a big problem, but as a poster up there noted make sure to check for wild vs. farmed. Farmed venison is just making the problem for wild predators just that much worse.
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Re: Game meat - ruminants of the forest taste great and are good for you
Thu, March 13, 2008 - 8:49 PMHaving worked around fish and game people in California, I have a lot of faith in them to protect wildlife populations in general. There are a lot of politics involved, and I would like to see more introduction and dissemination of impacted or extinct species, but I think they do a pretty good job. Much of that decision making is done by biologists. I mean these organizations were formed to protect wildlife and they have a done a reasonable job. Deer are certainly in no danger of disappearing in California with the DFG and the helm, but take them away? Reduction of human populations could only benefit wildlife populations by making habitat more available. Swelling human populations certainly bode ill. I have had no qualms about following fish and game harvesting guidelines so far. -
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Re: Game meat - ruminants of the forest taste great and are good for you
Wed, May 7, 2008 - 5:51 PMI haven't read the entire thread, just the first and last post, but I'm glad someone's posting here. Having grown up split between LA and Humboldt, I got to see Fish and Game from different angels. And I have to say I'm mostly happy with what I see. I'm more concerned about Farming in this state these days. I think we ought to join the vegetarians in protesting un-ethical treatment of animals. I'm all for killing Kosher (which was in ancient times traditionally done as painless as possible) and eating rarer types of meat like, venison, goat, mutton and maybe even elk and buffalo. As a teenager I was part of a community of people who were allergic to most common proteins and had to scout around for road kill through Fish and Game, I heard of some folks eating Panther just to get enough protein they didn't allergically react to!
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